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#1  01/06-21 16:55
Jackie Larsen

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Hej. Jeg mangler en 2,5" IDE hard disk, gerne med Windows XP installeret. Behøver ikke være ret stor. Er der en som kan hjælpe mig.

#2  01/06-21 18:15
Verner Qvotrup

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Svar til #1:

2.5" har jeg ikke, men nogle 3.5" IDE HDD, en 2 GB og en 120 GB

XP har jeg på CD/DVD.

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#3  01/06-21 18:25
Glenn Møller-Holst
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Svar til #1:

Med disse kan det muligvis være, at du kan anvende SSD med SATA grænseflade? Bemærk: Jeg har ingen erfaring med om det virker med MS Windows XP:

Søg fx med:
https://www.amazon.com/Ide-Ssd/s?k=Ide+Ssd

Kingwin SSD/SATA to IDE Bridge Board Adapter, Convert All SATA Devices Easily to IDE. Support 2.5 Inch, 3.5 Inch HDD, & Compatible w/ SATA I/II/III Hard Drives:
https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Adapter-Convert-D evices-Compatible/dp/B002SZDOM6/ref=sr_1 _19?dchild=1&keywords=Ide+Ssd&qid=162256 4569&sr=8-19

StarTech.com IDE to SATA Hard Drive or Optical Drive Adapter Converter - 40-Pin PATA to 2.5" SATA HDD / SSD / ODD Converter (IDE2SAT2)
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Drive-Optica l-Adapter-Converter/dp/B00EOJNGC2/ref=sr _1_22?dchild=1&keywords=Ide+Ssd&qid=1622 564771&sr=8-22

CY NGFF B/M-Key SSD to 2.5 inch IDE 44Pin Hard Disk Case Enclosure for Laptop
https://www.amazon.com/M-Key-44Pin-Enclosure-Not ebook-Laptop/dp/B07Z67GX6W/ref=sr_1_21?d child=1&keywords=Ide+Ssd&qid=1622564771& sr=8-21

USECL Laptop SATA to IDE Adapter, 2.5 Inch Serial ATA HDD Hard Disk Drive or SSD to 44 Pin Male PATA Port Converter, Vertical Type:
https://www.amazon.com/USECL-Laptop-Adapter-Conv erter-Vertical/dp/B0914N9WRJ/ref=sr_1_34 ?dchild=1&keywords=Ide+Ssd&qid=162256477 1&sr=8-34

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Til SSD med M.2 grænseflade:

( M.2 NGFF SATA SSD to 2.5" IDE 44-Pin Adapter Card with Case Enclosure
https://www.amazon.com/NGFF-SATA-44-Pin-Adapter- Enclosure/dp/B07VQL5M9L/ref=sr_1_29?dchi ld=1&keywords=Ide+Ssd&qid=1622564771&sr= 8-29
)

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#4  01/06-21 21:01
Max Jakobsen
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Svar til #3:

Jeg har en pc med SSD og MS-DOS 622, så det burde kunne køre med XP.

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#5  01/06-21 21:24
Glenn Møller-Holst
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Svar til #4:

For at lave indvinding af slettede filer/SSD-blokke skal styresystemet understøtte TRIM:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(computing)
Citat: "...
A trim command (known as TRIM in the ATA command set, and UNMAP in the SCSI command set) allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive (SSD) which blocks of data are no longer considered in use and can be wiped internally.[1]
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Trimming enables the SSD to more efficiently handle garbage collection, which would otherwise slow future write operations to the involved blocks.[3]
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Enabling unsupported filesystems.
Where the filesystem does not automatically support TRIM, some utilities can send trimming commands manually. Usually they determine which blocks are free and then pass this list as a series of trimming commands to the drive. These utilities are available from various manufacturers (e.g. Intel,[60] G.Skill[61]), or as general utilities (e.g. Linux's hdparm "wiper" since v9.17,[62][63] or mdtrim, as mentioned above). Both hdparm and mdtrim finds free blocks by allocating a large file on the filesystem and resolving what physical location it was assigned to.
On any operating system, the drive can detect when the computer writes all-zeros to a block, and de-allocate (trim) that block instead of recording a block of zeros.
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Can Windows XP Pro x86 *Safely* TRIM an SSD?:
https://msfn.org/board/topic/173482-can-windows- xp-pro-x86-safely-trim-an-ssd/
Citat: "...
Windows XP is a great OS for SSDs provided that you disable defrag and have a TRIM and SSD optimizer program with you.
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XP can't TRIM by itself, however we can manually TRIM SSDs under XP from some applications bundled with SSDs (provided the hardware ain't too ancient). I've tested the TRIM button in Corsair SSD Toolbox, OCZ Toolbox, and Samsung Magician under XP with success and no explosions.

Extra touches to help SSD life under XP:
- XP can't align partitions correctly for SSDs, so better partition and format in advance in another comp with Windows 7, then install XP.
- Disable prefetch.
- Disable indexing.
- Disable hibernation.
- Disable scheduled defrag.
- Disable pagefile, or move it to an HDD or a ramdisk.
- Let the system idle logged-off for an hour or more from time to time, so garbage collection can work.
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Beware some SSD makers like Crucial don't bundle a software tool for manually TRIMming, make sure the SSD brand and model you get for XP/Vista comes with such a tool.
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The 'Pro' version of SSD Tweaker can manually TRIM many brands of SSD.
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Anyone Know of TRIMing Software for Windows XP?:
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=68421

How to enable TRIM in Windows XP?:
https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/549371/How+t o+enable+TRIM+in+Windows+XP

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Glenn, OZ1HFT

#6  01/06-21 22:48
L .P.
Indlæg: 4
Svar til #1:
HEJ JEG HAR EN DISK DU MÅ FÅ DER ER IKKE NOGET PÅ DEN.
Hilsen oz2lp leif

#7  01/06-21 23:20
Jackie Larsen

Indlæg: 276
Svar til #6:
Tak Leif. Jeg kigger ind.
Jackie.

#8  01/06-21 23:22
Jackie Larsen

Indlæg: 276
Svar til #1:
Tak for alle input.

Jackie.

#9  02/06-21 18:43
Lars Peter Larsen
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Svar til #1:

Jeg er lidt sent ude, men har en enkelt 2½" disk på 100GB PATA og flere 2½" SATA, startende ved 120GB.

Ingen af dem er dog med WindowsXP

Den du skal bruge koster gratis for dig at afhente en aftens tid.

Vy 73 de oz1etp/Lars

#10  03/06-21 22:27
Jackie Larsen

Indlæg: 276
Svar til #9:
Tak Lars, men jeg har fået.

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